Paul Tichmann

I think unfinished conversations taps into aspects. the legacies of our history that we too easily forget about. And I think what it does is by opening up. those avenues by really, I suppose, giving us insight into some of those practices that still continue. It raises our awareness and it also gives us the opportunity to raise the awareness on a broader scale, to just make the public aware. I mean, just with some of those interviews, going back and speaking to family, speaking to friends about some of the things, and you can see the, you can visibly see the shock. And, you know, and even in cases where people had some kind of inkling, but just didn’t really realize the extent. And I think the other thing is, you… You go to the towns and then you go to these settlements that have come up, formed by people who have been evicted from the farms and you see informal settlements. You see a lifestyle that’s really steeped in struggle and you realize that yes, there is a lot that needs to change and I think it just reinforces that. that need to build awareness and really to confront what continues to happen under a government that’s meant to be a government of the people. And so it’s, I think it’s been, unfinished conversations has been important in really creating awareness amongst. the researchers of these things and then hopefully also bringing it before the public. And I think that’s quite clear when you talk to the workers as well, that they want their voices to be heard. They want to get their voices out there. And when we talk to them about the risks associated with that, they are actually willing to take the risks because they feel that. it’s an opportunity for them to really tell their story, for that story to be heard, sort of beyond that very controlled. space of the wine farm to actually bring it out to the public.